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Why Jared doesn't work for me as a bottom - Me myself and I
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Why Jared doesn't work for me as a bottom
Just to warn people, but this is yet another silly rant that's really about nothing important.*g*

One thing I notice reading the prompts at the kink meme is that well... I just find it hard to get into a prompt, or a fill for that matter, when Jared or Sam are put in the position of bottom or sub or slave.

Now admittedly, part of that is because I'm not attracted to Jared. Sorry, he has a nice body, but I just don't find his face all that attractive. (I may have mentioned this before*g*) But worse than that, he doesn't hold my emotional interest.

Just because I find a character unattractive won't always stop me from writing from their pov, or finding them fascinating. But even though I like Sam well enough, I just have little interest in reading stories with him as the main character. Add to that, that most people have the habit of going on about how attractive the submissive character is, which well... pulls me out of the story pretty quickly when said character is someone I'm not all that attracted to.

And really, I can buy 'Handsome' when applied to Jared, he's not my type, but I'm not blind, but when you want me to believe that he's supposed to be 'pretty', and not just the younger version of him, then you really are challenging my suspension of disbelief.

It's shallow really, but when I read a slash fic, who is on the bottom tends to depend on three things, for whom is it most in character (which should actually be the most important bit), which character am I most emotionally connected to. In supernatural that's Dean and in extension, Jensen. and third, (hides in shame) which one is smaller and prettier, which once again, Jensen

The big problem with RPS though is that there is no personalities to build on, or to judge a preference from the character on. And connection with the character depends on the individual fic and how they're written. So all there is, is looks. Meaning that lookwise, I'll always prefer Jensen as sub/bottom/slave.

Guess I know what that says about my personal preferences*g*, which is silly, because if there's women involved in the fic, I always without exception want them to be either dominant and/or on top. Which probably explains why Buffy/Spike is still my OTP, even years after the show's ended.

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vampslayer04 From: vampslayer04 Date: December 2nd, 2012 02:11 pm (UTC) (Link)
I completely agree. I'll occasionally read bottom!Sam, but bottom!Dean is definitely hotter, and I just can't see current Sam as anything but a top or even a full-on dominant. Pre-series, maybe, but not now.

I could give people examples from canon - Madison the werewolf was definitely not the one fully in charge of that encounter. Even if she did initiate.

And Ruby, as much as people hated her, I loved that demon. And Sam pinning her to the wall with the knife and eye contact was scorching.

Hell, even the way he occasionally manhandles Dean, even though it's not sexual.
liliaeth From: liliaeth Date: December 2nd, 2012 03:41 pm (UTC) (Link)
and if you look at pretty much most of dean's sex scenes, he's way more likely to let his partner lead, and/or is far softer and more vanilla than Sam is.
vampslayer04 From: vampslayer04 Date: December 3rd, 2012 02:08 am (UTC) (Link)
Yes, all of that. They're complete polar opposites, these two brothers.
rayvlin From: rayvlin Date: December 2nd, 2012 03:34 pm (UTC) (Link)
As far as rps goes, both Jared and Misha show very strong personalities at conventions and other public affairs. Jensen is generally very reserved, which leaves authors an almost clean slate to go on as far as personalities.

The only part of Jensen we do know well at all is "Dean" and whatever gets caught on the gag reels. This leaves a lot of interpretation that can lead you to almost any conclusion.

Personally w/o fandom glasses on I do believe all three men love their wives and love to just as much to mess(prank, humiliate, make fun of) with each other when they're bored.

Edited at 2012-12-02 07:35 pm (UTC)
liliaeth From: liliaeth Date: December 2nd, 2012 03:37 pm (UTC) (Link)
I have to admit that for me personally, I don't see enough personality transfer from any of the interviews/gagreels, to the actual fics. But then I tend to see pretty much all RPS as original fic, using the actors as stand in for the looks.
rayvlin From: rayvlin Date: December 2nd, 2012 04:00 pm (UTC) (Link)
I agree. Really unless you do know these actors you just end up profiling them in order to fill a slot in a fic.
deansfangirl From: deansfangirl Date: December 2nd, 2012 06:07 pm (UTC) (Link)
I agree that Jared isn't overly gorgeous and that bottom!Sam is out of character. Glad I'm not the only one! :-)
liliaeth From: liliaeth Date: December 3rd, 2012 09:43 am (UTC) (Link)
It just doesn't fit Sam's onscreen personality. imo at least.
sazzy_angel From: sazzy_angel Date: December 2nd, 2012 11:44 pm (UTC) (Link)
That made me giggle about not finding Jared attractive. Don't think he has the nicest face. But he is very sweet. Great personality, and body. LOL But yes i tune out of the Jared bottom prompts.

Really? you don't like him as the main character? I prefer jensen as the main character. But i will stop reading a story if I find out Jared bottoms... toptally agree with you.

But we all have are own opinion. :P
liliaeth From: liliaeth Date: December 3rd, 2012 09:42 am (UTC) (Link)
Well it won't always stop me from reading a fic. But I do have a clear preference for Jensen as the bottom.

And it's really his face, it's too angular for me. I love Jared, from what I see of him, he seems like a great guy, funny, sweet and all that. I just have no physical attraction to his face.
serendip50 From: serendip50 Date: January 19th, 2013 10:11 am (UTC) (Link)
I totally agree with most of what you say as regards who tops and who bottoms...I do however, find Jared quite sexy, but mostly it's his toned physique that captures my attention rather than his facial features which are not the standard handsome or beautiful as Jensen:) but attractive enough for many girls.

I am a discerning reader but find myself much more inclined to read a fiction where Jared or Sam tops (occassionaly a switch) as this for me is the more believable interpretation. I see Jared and Sam as the strong, buff, motivated, intelligent, and most importantly aggressive and dominant type (sometimes the later in a more subtle way on the show) especially in the bedroom where his sexually agressive/dom personality is best suited. Also Dean does seem to have more chemistry with men than women, whereas Sam is the opposite except where his brother is concerned...I think Dean would do anything for his brother, he would allow Sam to manipulate him and Sam definitely could. I cannot however see Sam bowing down to his brother at all literally or
I know the argument might seem stereotypical but that is just the way it works for me:). Besides, I believe if someone made the same argument for Sam, Jared as bottom it would still sound like a x
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