Two of my fave boyss
Thoughts on recent events on SPN - Me myself and I
It's all about me
Thoughts on recent events on SPN
I'm a terrible terrible person....

Or I must be at least....

Now don't get me wrong, I loved Bobby, still do, same with Cas. But...

much as I love both guys, a small part of me is happy that the show killed them...

Because next time people start complaining that SPN kills all the women, they can't use the continuing life of Bobby and Cas to deny the fact that sooner or later, SPN kills off all recurring characters, regardless of gender.

I mean, I keep seeing people accuse SPN of being oh so mysogonistic and bad on the use of women and I just don't see it...

Fandom, sure, there's a big problem with misogyny in fandom, but the show itself? Not really.

So what if they fight female monsters, demons, ghosts, ... and so on... Do you know how rare it is to find a show that's willing to show women as enough of a threat to fight them?

There is a bigger variety of female characters, both good and bad, on spn than there is on most other shows and at least on spn, women aren't just there to be set dressing.

Most of the actual complaints against spn come down to the fact that SPN isn't an ensemble show. It's a show about two brothers, everyone else is extra.

I'm not saying SPN is perfect, but honestly, I can name dozens of strong female characters on the show, yet most of those gets ignored or brushed off by fandom as 'they're evil' or they're boring or...

Ah well, much as I'd love to see Cas and Bobby back, some small part of me hopes that it'll only be in the same way that Victor, Jo, Ellen and Pamela got to return, so that people don't start nagging again.

Also... how nice is it to have a show where characters with mental illnesses are not only treated as people who still have something to offer, but as full fledged characters who aren't just hidden away when they're 'special ep' is done and over with.

Now if only Dean realized that Sam could actually be helped if he saw a shrink who I don't know, might help him out with some proper medication. Yeah sure, his hallucinations are primarily trauma based, but there has to be something to help with that, right? (hell if they do see a shrink, he might be able to help Dean as well, finally.

Then again, if Sam did tell the guy the truth, both brothers would probably end up with the same result as they got in Sam Interrupted...)
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milleniumrex From: milleniumrex Date: January 8th, 2012 09:32 pm (UTC) (Link)

I think it's now confirmed that this is a kill-em-all show. No one is safe except the Winchesters.

And they've both died! Came back, of course, but still!
super_pan From: super_pan Date: January 8th, 2012 10:43 pm (UTC) (Link)
Yeah, on Show there is no gender discrimination for.......MURDER!

You'd think the people saying all the women dying is sexist would have just been happy that the guys had some one to help them out.
ladypeyton From: ladypeyton Date: January 8th, 2012 11:55 pm (UTC) (Link)
I'm more than half convinced that Bobby is haunting his boys. I think "you drank is and forgot" is too simple an explanation for Dean's missing beer.

Also, I agree with the vast majority of your post.

Edited at 2012-01-08 11:56 pm (UTC)
enigmaticblues From: enigmaticblues Date: January 9th, 2012 02:16 am (UTC) (Link)
I totally agree. SPN kills everybody, and you never know who they'll bring back.
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